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. >> good morning. >> and in washington, msnbc and "time" magazine senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> listen to the song. ♪ waiting for the end of the world ♪ >> good call, kid. elvis costello. "end of the world." >> "end of the world." it's here. no. no, no. >> what's this "new york post" stuff? what's going on? >> i don't know. olympic gold medalist turned prostitute. >> are you serious? >> the thing about the "post," they are always on the pulse. >> exclusive piece or is it in "the times," too? >> here's -- i'm glad it's going on in new york. they're getting ready for the holiday season. >> they've got their eye on the ball. >> i don't know what's going on there. >> let's just throw those away. john boehner had a bad night last night. >> yeah. a picture on the front page of "the new york times" seemed to say it all. >> yeah, my goodness. >> look at his face. >> he said a prayer last night. he undertook a gambit. he decided that he was going to walk away from negotiations and try to get republicans to support a tax increase on people making $1 million or more. without any sp
on with washington? we are so close now this deadline. you can't -- probably hard to put into words how frustrated people are are a lot of talking going on and you can't come together with republicans and they can't come together with you to stop taxes from going up for all americans. >> well, the american people in their wisdom sent a divided government to washington. off group of people in the house of representatives that basically slapped around their own leader and said we won't even consider a tax increase for millionaires, multimillionaires, billionaires. meanwhile, you have got the majority of the senators elected in this body saying we can do more at the top end. those of us who have a lot can get more revenue to address this crisis so you have got this stalemate that was created by two very different groups of people, all elected by the american people. >> now, walking out, i spoke to several of your colleagues, democratic senators who said they were not optimistic, really looking pretty glum. what camp are you in after what you just heard? do you think -- i mean, as you said, the clock
." live in the nation's capital. this is exciting. and you know, i said, let's do a show from washington, d.c., because they get so much stuff done there. it's like silicon valley. and going there when steve jobs was really bringing apple to the forefront -- >> a happening place. >> it is. it's where things happen. that's why we're here, steve rattner. >> washington is the place. with us on set, economic analyst steve rattner. also political editor and white house correspondent for the huffington post, sam stein. andrea mitchell. and in new york, msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. and the co-anchor of "street signs," brian sullivan. we've got a lot to talk about, mike barnicle, but i saw a headline on the front page of "usa today," a tease that is very intriguing, and that is one of the greatest players in major league baseball trying to get his worth right now. and if i were a major league team, i would pass on josh hamilton in a new york second because the guy phoned it in when his team needed him the most. there's an attitude problem. and yet he could be such a huge payoff. are the red
for the national journal and ruth marcus is a columnist for "washington post." ruth, we'll start for you. if you're a remember of congress or the president -- >> way to go. don't do that to me. >> just for a moment, ruth. go with he. >> all right. >> do you say we need to get this done? and compromise is more important when you look at the screen right now? >> if i'm a member of congress or the president, i say that. am i confident, probably not because your poll is fascinating because the voters are so much more -- so much smarter than the politicians. they're both right about the unlikelihood of compromise. and right about the need for it. but the parties on both sides are also dealing with some pressures from their base voters and the need to not look like they were the ones who were giving in first. and so, that's -- i'm a believer with this speaker about the capacity of washington to pull rabbits out of hats or presents out of stockings, but you can't feel too optimistic right now. >> if you're a member of congress, you're not going to limp to your base i guess is what you're saying there.
right now are planning to make new year's eve plans here in washington, d.c. we're not so sure we're getting out of town yet. >> they should be plans you can cancel if case you have to go right back to work. let me ask a question. jessica says pressure is a great motivator. talk about pressure last night on speaker boehner, couldn't get enough support from his own party for his plan. what does that mean for any kind of bipartisan plan they might be working out? >> it really does illustrate how difficult it is going to be for democrats to even achieve what the president laid out tonight, a scaled down version. the speaker himself said a couple of times today that he believes that the reason why he didn't get even the majority of the caucus to support him was because of a lot of difficulty voting to raise taxes, voting for anything that can be perceived as a tax increase. well, what the president is talking about even scaled down version is definitely raising taxes. and raising taxes on people making $250,000 or more, at least households, so that's going to be difficult to do. that'
, as tragic as it is, brings us a little closer together both in the nation and in washington, that would be a good thing. >> all right. top of the hour. good morning. 6:00 on the east coast, it's wednesday, december 19th. christmas is almost here. >> very respectful dialogue. the nra had a respectful statement. i think a lot of people showing respect on this. >> feel something may be be happening. >> feel some grown-ups, maybe. there are, of course, exceptions. >> there are a few. we have mike barnicle with us. you're not an exception. beautiful piece in "the daily news" today. we'll read that in must read. thank you very much. former treasury officials. mark ratner is with us as well. he has a must read. i'm serious. >> beautiful. >> also in washington, washington anchor for "bbc world news america" katty kay. >> no pieces, sorry. >> you'll write one next time. thank you. so we've got a lot to get to this morning. >> a lot to talk about today. >> those exceptions, what are you talking about? >> just in the conversation about everything you thought there were two exceptions. >> rick perr
no idea what is the future because of washington. >> given the data points that we've had in terms of claims numbers that did reflect an impact from sandy, they said 85,000 jobs or 86,000 jobs were sliced because of impact of sandy. average hours worked unchanged. doesn't that -- i don't know -- doesn't that bring into question a little bit the participation in the survey. how can it have no impact whatsoever? it seems curious to me. >> it does call into question whether these numbers can be accurate. we have been starting to think let's check accuracy. why isn't this done by s.a.p.? why aren't numbers done by oracle or salesforce.com. >> those are private companies. i'm just saying that you wouldn't question the data if it was done by a company that got a contract like s.a.p. and put these numbers together. i am beginning to question how these numbers are put together. that number was -- i agree with you. sandy has no impact? >> on number of hours worked. >> a lot of country was shut down during sandy. >> even before the number hit, people were saying you got to incorporate poll w
well that in washington when you're talking about obligating a future congress to make cuts, that's not a deal. and that's the same hook that republicans have always gotten hung on in previous negotiations with democrats when rate increases are on the table. so republicans are saying, look, we'll go 37%. we may even talk about 39%, but we want to see real cuts that are right now, not something that you're going to obligate the congress of 2020 to do because that's not going to happen. >> but that's fine, michael, but that's not what they're saying. >> that is what they're saying. >> no, no, no. boehner wrote a letter in plain english, typed it out, no rate increases, period. not no rate increases -- >> come on. steve, like that means something? >> hold on. so he wrote that letter. the president said we're not going to move from 39%. the president -- >> no, he did not say that. >> let me finish. the president subsequently said we can meet them halfway, and boehner did not rule out a 37% number. >> no, he briefly didn't rule it out, and then he ruled it out. >> it's still on the tab
. >> "the washington post" reports that the president will put vice president biden in charge of the push to start this violence. biden met with the president along with education secretary arne duncan, eric hold and kathleen sebelius to try to formulate a plan. at the same time, perhaps moved by the national move, another plan seems it's taking shape. the deal to stop us from going over the fiscal cliff. speaker boehner and the preside president at the white house. now, the president supports raising taxes on people earning more than $400,000 a year. i want to bring in "washington post" columnist ruth marcus and the national journalist chris freisz. there's a lot owing on, assault weapons ban and the gun show loophole. do you think they're going to take this, how are they likely to approach this? >> well, i think the vice president say very good choice to lead this because of course he was the chairman of the senate judiciary where this legislation goes through for many years. and so he understands a little bit of what's politically possible or, let's cross our fingers, what might hopefu
out earlier today and saying no progress has been made in the negotiations. our chief washington correspondent john harwood is here with the latest. >> reporter: we ended the week with a fairly perfect, simple, clear, elegant expression of the partisan differences in this fight. speaker boehner came out and gave a press conference where he essentially said president obama has done nothing to compromise with republicans. here's the speaker. >> four days ago we offered a serious proposal based on testimony of president clinton's former chief of staff. since then there's been no counteroffer from the white house. instead, reports indicate that the president has adopted a deliberate strategy to slow-walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: not surprisingly, democratic house leader nancy pelosi had precisely the opposite explanation for what is behind this stalemate. she says republicans simply echoing the white house are going to have to buckle on the issue of the top rates. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the repub
with that is laurie montgomery, the fiscal policy reporter for the washington post. so, laurie, welcome to you here. and your paper this morning, you ran through a couple of tax scenarios which were pretty palletable so we want to show our view whaeers what you ran through. let me run through two. we'll look at this first one. so everybody take a look at this graphic. this is scenario number one, married couple, two kids, one in college, combined income of $137,000. you see the numbers here first under the democrats' plan, passed by the senate, not by the house, they would see their taxes rise 2500 bucks a year. just below that, the republican plan, passed by the house in august, would raise the couple's taxes by $4,000. and if we go off the cliff, this is this third scenario here, the middle class couple sees their taxes go up by $8,000. laurie, is the viewer -- the couple, this couple here, this middle class couple gets its best deal from the democrats plan, correct? >> that's right. i mean, most people are going to get a better deal from the democratic plan if you're under $250,000 because the t
it totally mythical numbers, that nothing is actually being done at all. >> "the washington post" did a column on this where they look through some of tim geithner's numbers and it was a little concerning. >> smoke in mirrors. >> goes after the entitlements. >> but this is the deal that's going to happen. the cuts there are going to be real or the republicans won't play. >> right. >> and in return, the revenue side of the equation is going to be more consistent with what the president's looking for. i think he's serious about the rates. >> you can't even guarantee that guys like demint and that wing of the part -- you saw what he said yesterday. >> i didn't see what he said. >> he said no way. 800 billion in tax increases. we're saying it now like it's normal. 25% of gdp for government spending and you've got bloated government already, you start there. you start at government spending. you don't immediately start spending another 50 billion in stimulus. >> that's going to be the question that boehner has to deal with. the president will have to deal with the far wings of his party. b
's going on in washington. i'm not sure who those republicans are. i'm not so sure on whether the fiscal conservatives in the party know something about some big reforms on medicare and medica medicare, social security is, any of the retirement or tax issues, but i'll tell you this. i think that all these stories aren't necessarily going lead us to the truth. i personally have a very size way i'm approaching this. the president is supposed to leave for a 21-day vacation in hawaii on december 17th. where he is on december 18th will tell me, and i think the markets will pay attention. i find it hard to believe, and i agree with bill and many, who are very not amused by the house taking their long weekend. i'm sure that the president would have no intentions of leaving until these issues are resolved. i think the market is being kind, but i think it's a timing issue. >> yeah, i think that's a good point. somebody mentioned the other day that the president is planning a trip to hawaii on december 17th. i said, what? they said, no, no, no, not unless the deal is done. we'll see about that. me
. i want to get to washington with some of the latest headlines regarding speaker boehner and what eamon is referring to as plan b. >> what we know is the speaker is in the basement of the capital building here right now, meeting with republican lawmakers to brief them on the status of the fiscal cliff negotiation, and what a gop leadership aide is now telling news news is the speaker is now prepared to offer what he's calling a plan b, or a modified plan b in which we don't do the grand big deal that the president and speaker of the negotiating on, but instead do something much smaller that would eliminate the pending tax increases for all americans, the speaker saying that he would like to have some kind of a deal, a modified scaled-down proposal now that would eliminate those for as many people as he can. the details are very sketchy on what modified plan b actually means in practice. but basically, it's something he can keep in his hip pocket right now in case these negotiations with the president don't bear fruit. and presumably what we're talking about here, carl, is a little
. leadership void in washington . look who is stepping in to help settle the debate. former governor jeb bush. could it work. >> steve: no police in sight. a mob of protestors tore down a tent with children and elderly people and people with wheelchairs inside. >> two men came in with ski masks and had box cutters. >> steve: that is what happened in michigan a couple of days ago. >> brian: we'll not see commercialism like this anymore? ♪ >> brian: yeah, outlawed because they are just too loud. >> steve: really? >> brian: "fox and friends" starts -- ♪ >> this is the stage manager, ho, ho, ho. happy holidays. you are watching. "fox and friends". >> steve: very nice. >> brian: and joe did not know the news that we found out early this morning. that bralanedwars acquired by the new york jets had a ham string. >> steve: joel is america's biggest jet's fan. >> gretchen: that is insider information. >> brian: he had a bounce in the step. >> gretchen: luckily i know who that is. should we kick off the show with headlines. we now know the identity of the shooter in the mall . he had no history of
of credit to the fed, perhaps, but also feel the debate shifted yesterday in washington. i began to hear way too many people say, you know what the president is curiously unengaged when it comes to cuts. i have always felt the president had the upper hand in this debate. i listened to bernanke and bernanke says, listen, i know they aren't going to come to deal. i see a lot of republicans on air saying we start to understand what they are they want as cuts. not hearing anything from the president. made me feel grim about the fiscal cliff, good about what the fed wants to do, very grim about the power of the fed, beyond what it's already done. >> the "wall street journal"/nbc news poll of americans about the fiscal cliff, some very interesting findings, just to that point, jim, two-thirds polled want congress to strike a deal and cut the budget, even if that means social security and medicare cuts. so, according to this poll, the people are saying, yes, go ahead, cut entitlements and say that obama has a mandate, among those that did not vote for obama, they have -- that they say that there is
or the "washington post." 180 degrees. >> what did he mean? >> there's plenty for conspiracy theorists today. ties to all the central banks all around the world, they have these secret dinners every couple of months. as if the fed needed more distrust among fed watchers, right? >> i havend the privilege last r of going to a dinner with fisher, who is crucial -- you look at the diagram. this is just an alumni association that has allowed other people in. this is an m.i.t. thing. fisher is regarded as being the man who saved east asia in the '90s. you know, these guys have been more than upfront that there's a club. i think it's just being written about for the first time. >> yeah. mark, the consensus is $45 billion in monthly purchases of treasuries. that's what's expected. if we don't get that, a lot of market analysts believe that the markets will be extremely disappointed. this off of a string of gains. the first five-day winning streak for the dow since march. the dow, in fact, is at, what, the highest level since october 22nd. s&p the highest level since november 6th, which, of course, was the
at the raw numbers they've changed quite a bit. this is a nbc "washington post" poll. 54% favor stricter gun control laws and 59% support banning high-capacity magazines. we heard from joe manchin and joe warner, both with a-ratings with the nra. to ruth's point, chris, is there a chance that republicans could help to move them as well? >> well, i think so. i think we have seen that on the fiscal cliff issue. and the feeling here at the capitol, i've put the question to them and said, if gabby giffords, a congresswoman one of your own was almost fatally shot, and congress didn't react on gun control, what has to happen after this new event? this has changed the tenor. i was talking to a democratic leadership aide to made that point and also made the point when you have harry reid, if you remember in 2010, a tough re-election. the nra king just short of stopping him saying he was a friend of the second amendment. you have joe manchin and now mark warner. those are moderate democrats. they help bring republicans on board. maybe we would see movement. >> i want to bring in congressman yarmouth.
no in 2011 told "the washington post" today, quote, speaker boehner has a very hard job. i could not do his job. and i would not do his job. it's easy for mes athe lowest level of the house to criticize what others are trying to do but i'm not going to do it. . now, republican tea partyers, like republican congressman brown who wanted to lower the debt ceiling have been reduced to relevance speak at a press conference attended by five members of congress sponsored by an organization no one has heard of, teaparty.net. >> we can stop this insanity in washington without raising revenue. we need to raise taxpayers not taxes on anyone. i will not back down from that. >> people want to say, you guys are just trying to help your rich friends. i don't have a lot of rich friends. that is not what we're about. we're about trying to protect the principles in which this country was founded. >> i agree with the tea party. we've been taxed enough already. >> joining me now are sam stein, "huffington post" white house correspondent and political editor. and joy reid, managing editor for the grio. they had
, listening to that conversation, a few minutes before the opening bell, front page of the "washington post," investors aren't waiting for a deal. they're selling stock, they're trying to sell homes. they're setting up shelters, gifts for taxes. this discussion is not academic by any stretch of the imagination. >> we have to avoid the cliff, period. >> yes, we do. >> we do. to your point, carl, $20 billion in special dividends have been paid out this quarter. some of the economists said this would be a jump of income in the household, payouts to dividends, acceleration into this year. >> becky and jim, who have been doing amazing work on capitol hill, did talk to grover norquist, a bit of a rematch after cramer's appearance a couple of weeks ago with grover norquist. >> obama personally moved it out two years, because he didn't want to raise taxes and damage the economy, because he said the economy was weak. the economy's not strong now. so the argument to raise taxes now is not any better than it was two years ago. i think there's a real danger we could end up with some damaging tax increa
quickly here. john harward in washington here today. thanks a lot. the cheddar, bacon, onion sandwich that boosted sales for mcdonald's in december. >> steve liesman's exclusive interview with richmond fed president jeffrey lacquer. the lone dissenter at every fed policy meeting this year. more "squawk on the street" after this. the . >>> all right. if the sight of this sandwich makes your mouth water, then you are in luck. because the mcrib is back at mcdonald's today. but how much do limited time offers really impact on sales? we're here to break down the mcrib effect. ladies, great to have you with us. rachel, i'll start off with you. what sort of impact could we see potentially in the month of december? i read in the past, in 2010 at least, one of these limited introduction offers that it actually boosted sales by almost 5%. >> i think it depends on what the lto is and what the prior year same-store comparison is. i wouldn't expect to see a positive number of the magnitude that you're discussing. actually, frankly, it will probably be something in the single digit negatives. but a
of $300 billion. guys, it looks like the horse trading is alive and well here in washington. now this offer being extended from the republicans. you can assume that the white house will not think this is enough tax revenue to go forward, but, of course, offers are being exchanged here so that's a sign negotiations are under way, guys. >> let's get into the details here. $600 billion in health savings. what does that mean for medicare? break it down in terms of where these savings come from. >> i wish i could. what we don't have here is a lot of detail hanging off this christmas tree at this point. we're looking at a couple of bullet points being released now in terms of the scale of the deal. it gives us overall broad numbers. presumably negotiators would have to go in and fill in details of how they're get that kind of savings. there have been a lot of proposals on health of finding billions of dollars of savings by reducing overhead and other things like that. you've seen the unions come out and say they don't want to see any changes at all that would hurt payoffs to beneficiar
to push without delay. this is not some washington commission. this is not something where folks are going to be studying the issue for six months and publishing a report that gets read and then pushed aside. >> one of the reasons the president is asking for action without delay is because he knows change can be accomplished, and it's been done before. the assault weapons ban signed by president clinton reduced crime lower than it had been in a generation. it's been 18 years since the crime bill was signed, and eight years since it was allowed to expire. perhaps this is why president obama is turning to the bill's architect for guidance. >> i want to single out for special recognition the chairman of the senate judiciary committee who has fought tirelessly for this bill for six long years, senator joe biden. would you stand, senator joe biden. [ applause ] >> the choice of joe biden to lead the current task force on gun violence is no coincidence. the vice president fought against the odds to get democrats and republicans on board for the 1994 crime bill. biden is also a powerful symbol on
for it. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. tonight washington republicans are wasting our time. republicans are supposed to vote on john boehner's infamous plan b at this hour. the house is in recess as republican leaders basically are scrambling to get all the votes. house speaker john boehner pushed for a vote on the bill even though it has no chance of surviving in the senate. it would be vetoed by the president if it did. boehner's plan b. it makes tax increases permanent for income above $1 million. compared to the white house plan, basically, folks, it's a joke. president obama proposed a $2.5 trillion package. $1.2 trillion would come from spending cuts. $1.3 trillion would come from tax increases. plan b only includes $1 trillion in tax revenue and the rest of course is unspecified. it also includes no deal on raising the debt ceiling. president obama's latest offer takes the debt ceiling off the table for the next two years, which i think most americans want. boehner flat out lied to the american people today when he announced tonight's vote. >> pr
. and our steve leesman is one of the lucky few who gets a question and he joins us now from washington. this is really something that not a lot of people expected, steve. >> i think that's right, tyler. and it is absolutely historic. fed for the first time putting economic targets around its funds rate projections and first of all, the other news was that it did end -- it said it would end to replace that so that brings the monthly purchases of long-term assets to $85 billion. i want to show you some math. the current level of the math call it 2.8 trillion. add a trillion to that, you will be at 3.8 trillion if we do go at this pace for a full year here. the precrisis level is $800 billion. i want it put it another way, tyler. increase the balance sheet from '09 to '12 by a trillion dollars. we will do that in one year. aggressive policy from the fed. unaggressive as tyler mentioned the idea of using economic targets for funds rate. we know they were talking about it. we know there was support. we didn't think the federal reserve had unanimity enough to do this. only jeff lacker from r
in washington. the big story today is north korea's successful launch of a satellite in to space. tonight on "special report," that development is seen as putting north korea one step closer to send a nuclear tip warhead as far as california. the u.s. and many western nations recognized new opposition coalition as the legitimate representative of the syrian people. but there is already disagreement over the designation of a rebel group as terrorist. police in suburban portland, oregon, identified the young man who fatality shot two people and himself at a shopping mall tuesday. but they say they do not know why jacob tyler roberts opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle. a man who bought the gun that killed border patrol argentina brian terry two years ago has been sentenced to 57 months in prison. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern. now back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ >> greg: can somebody invent new christmas songs? is there a limb, we only have 12? anyway, i'm tired. i'm tired. >> bob: so is kimberly. >> kimberly: hey! >> greg: only 12 christmas songs
actually had a visual assist on this. "the washington post" said that obama and his allies spent far less than mitt romney, but got far more in key markets, targeting key democratic groups such as the young working voters in spring states. i think what they did, knowing why they were going, something we never saw before. the worst move of the 2012 campaign? >> i got two things on this. one is, i think my answer is choosing paul ryan to be the vice presidential nominee. just because a, it never gave him the list that anything thought it would be. he effectively neutered mitt romney, whether it was the stuff with todd aken, or the ryan budget, nowhere to run away from it. >> alex and i were on the same wavelength, picking paul ryan, not only for those reasons, but mitt romney went on to lose wisconsin badly. there were questions after paul ryan's debate performance against joe biden of whether he was really ready to step on the stage and be the number two. and i think a lot of people who thought about going with mitt romney, not only were they uncomfortable with how far to the right he was,
couple days. at a vigil in washington for the victims at sandy hook elementary, connecticut congresswoman and democrat rosa delora, say reasonable people need to come together to find screenable ways to prevent gun violence. here she is. >> we who serve in this institution need to take steps that are going to insure that these tragedies will not happen again. like insuring better access to quality mental health care, and yes, i belief in strengthening our gun control laws. martha: democrat frank lautenberg and dianne feinstein saying in the next congress they will reintroduce the bans on assault weapons and high capacity magazines. lots more to be said about all of that. bill: talk of renewing gun control debate sends sale of firearms soaring. gun store owners said they see increased sale for ammunition which is some say is easier to ban than the weapons themselves. some stores reporting busiest days they have seen in years. >> big-time, friday and saturday especially the place was just wall-to-wall. they're going to do something. that's obvious. and people want to get stuff before a ban
about the shooter and what he did in the days before the attack. nbc's pete williams is in washington. pete with a good day, what have you learned? >> reporter: alex, the connecticut authorities have not yet formally identified the gunman, but we're been told and i think it's widely known it's adam lanza is his name, 20 years old who was living with his mother. they say the shooting actually began that morning about three miles from the school at the home where he was living with his mother, that he shot her then drove her car to the school. now we're told that he had actually four handguns when he entered the school. we had known about the first two. they say there were two others that were found. and then he also had a rifle that was not brought into the school we're told by several officials, that it was left in the car, and that all these weapons were legally purchased by his parents. although officials say on tuesday of this past week adam lanza went to a sporting goods store in connecticut and tried to buy a rifle but was turned down for various reasons, because of the connectic
christmas in washington, do they? >> you have thursday, friday and monday, right? >> you have a lot of aides prepared to come back after christmas to try and make sure they're not too far away from d.c. it does look encouraging. you've had movements on both sides. you've had boehner indicating that he's willing to accept and rising tax rate for the wealthiest. at the same time, you've had the president scaling back the limit to which those tax rates go up the. >> and they're not arguing about idealogical points any more. >> exactly. >> and what about the debt ceiling? do you think this gets thrown to the mix or not? >> well, i think the white house knows very strongly that as far as the markets are concerned, they want to try and get some kind of clarity for the next few months. after the last couple of years, no one really trusts the government or trusts the administration to not have a series of crisis and tiptoeing to the edge. so my bet is they will try to get some sort of deal. >> who has more trouble convincing the people they need to sign off? boehner could get enough with democrats a
are headed to washington. let us know what's happening. >> he's going to fix it. >> we're going to have pizza. >> make sure you join us tomorrow. "squawk on the street" is next. ♪ >>> led zeppelin to wash away monday blues. congrats to the band for winning kennedy center honors last night. welcome to "squawk on the street." i'm carl quintanilla along with jim cramer, david faber live at nyse. melissa will join us in the next hour. we're kicking off the month of december with strength. anticipating good auto numbers today. greece unveiling that $10 billion eurobond buyback. a 52-week high in france and germany. our road map this morning begins in washington where fiscal cliff negotiations according to the "times" has "collapsed." at least for now. with less than a month until the deadline, who blinks first if anyone? >> goldman takes dell from a strength to a buy. is it time to look at the stock and maybe even other players in the beat up personal computer sector? >> manufacturing data out of china. not bad. 50.6. that's the highest in seven months. although shanghai again trades lower even
the government money. the chatter is being stirred by knowledgeable washington journalists saying the obama administration may be ready to include these in a fiscal cliff deal with republicans. whatever negotiations are taking place between the president and speaker john boehner, whatever each side is prepared to give up a a level of security. it's totally possible the white house actually has no intent on messing with medicare or social security benefits. but for the left the chatter is ominous. it's coming from well sourced reporters and we've been down this road before. the pursuit with john boehner in 2011, obama was willing. there's reason to suspect there's something to all this chatter. and the question then becomes why? why would obama who simply by doing nothing these next few weeks could get the tax hike on the wealthy he's been demanding without touching medicare and social security? why would he entertain such drastic changes to the safety net? most likely culprit is the dreaded debt ceiling. here's why. republicans came to these talks with no leverage. the consequences of doing
in washington. >> i think that's the key point. you look at the history of environmental movements in this country. the american people including in red states have proved themselves willing over and over again to tax themselves to address current risks to their health, their children's health, their communities, their water supply, the air they breathe. the problem with climate to date is it's seen as a future risk, and it's coming forward. >> the politics also change -- you made this interesting point about the geography changing. we basically know how the senators from west virginia are going to vote on stuff that has to do with coal. democrat, republican, marxist, whatever. whoever you would elect from west virginia they're going to vote a certain way on coal. and the fact that we now have this incredibly distributed development because of the fracking boom means a lot of different places now are geographically playing. that goes two ways. one way is we produce more senators from the state of west virginia and how they vote. the other is we produce this broad grassroots activac
. the clerk: washington, d.c, december 4, 2012. to the senate: under the provisions of rule 1, paragraph 3, of the standing rules of the senate, i hereby appoint the honorable christopher a. coons, a senator from the state of delaware, to perform the duties of the chai. signed: daniel k. inouye, president pro tempore. mr. reid: mr. president? the presiding officer: the majority leader. mr. reid: following leader remarks, the senate will proceed to executive session to consider the disabilities trite. the time until noon will be equally divided and controlled between the two leaders or their designees. at noon there will be a roll call vote on the resolution of advise and consent to the convention on rights of persons with disabilities. we don't do treaties often and there are requests from both --m senators on both sides of the aisle. i think the they're right, becae this is a treaty, the votes will take place from our desks today. everybody should be on notice. following the vote, mr. president, the senate will recess to allow for our weekly caucus meetings. additional votes in resolution
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